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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Cyriel Longinus on 04/07/2008 15:27:44
ôThe Caldari State is ruled by several mega-corporations. There is no central government to speak of - all territories within the State are owned and ruled by corporations. Duty and discipline are required traits in Caldari citizens, plus unquestioning loyalty to the corporation they live to serve. The corporations compete aggressively amongst themselves and with companies outside the State, resulting in a highly capitalistic society.ö
The above description makes sense how simply it should be in The Caldari State.
Truth.
The media were given a false story to report. A Caldari Carebear Regime, The Secretariate, was voted into office by a less than handful of people in one channel and began to passively influence the Caldari State Militia for the "Greater Good".
You can imagine how so very thrilled the Caldari PVP Community embraced their new carebear overlords.
There was no campaign, no other choice given for Secretary General. Those who worded against the appointment of Secretary General Kassasis Dakkstromri were immediately branded dissenters and dismissed. This was exactly how a unanimous vote by all Caldari was counted.
Since that day the Caldari State has grown feeble and apathetic.
The Secretariate is a failing, a false authority disguised with the smile of "good will". Though it hides behind a veil of being an advisory council, it is too closely akin to a central government. It breeds and forgives weakness.
Weakness is not a Caldari virtue.
How fitting that on this Fourth of July, patriots of the State, Caldari PVP Corporations have decided to denounce the Secretary General, reclaim the Caldari State from the weak and restore tradition by declaring war on the Secretariate [SP-S] and corporations loyal to it.
We invite all fellow Citizens and Patriots of the State to join us so that the Caldari State does not fall victim to the same fate as the Amarr Empire.
Those wishing to join in on the overthrowing of the Secretariate, join us in declaring his corp valid war targets, and let us patriots lead by example.
The weak shall not inherit the Caldari State.
[Translation: We don't like our Carebear Overlords and the Caldari PVP Corporations will run the show from now on, even if we have to club our baby seals to make it so]
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:11:00 -
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Reserved
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Stitcher
While I have no respect for the Secretariat - I'm yet to see them actually do anything - It's more than a bit counter-productive to resort to animosity and internecine conflict to try and depose them. The security of the State would be weakened by an internal power struggle, at least in the short term, meaning that you are actively working against your sworn duty to ensure that our people's defenses are as strong as possible.
Now is not the time to be fracturing the Protectorate into a mob of bickering factions. If you want to show the Secretariat how real soldiers fight - if you want to lead the protectorate - then do so by example, not by declaring war on pilots who are ultimately on your own side. Even if you have no respect for their competence, warring amongst ourselves can only serve to weaken the State's protection.
Lead by example, not by force.
My fellow soldier, have you gone in the Caldari Command Channel to request back up and support to exfiltrate your buddies from a hotspot. Yea, it sums it up.
I'm dam sure the only people you've seen to come support your buddies were us.
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Cyriel Longinus on 04/07/2008 16:31:54
For now, only The Secretariate [SP-S] has been wardec'd by Caldari Corporations.
If any others rally or defend it, they become targets.
I doubt he will ever undock. I expect that.
He may even cover himself from future attention by rolling over back to the NPC Corproation.
But by doing this I just put a gun to the system and demostrated that he could do nothing to oppose it.
PVP Communities are formed ... by force.
Not four hour conversations about good intentions.
However, if you favor PVP Corporations leaving the Caldari State to join Mimmatar or Gallante where they operate on a organized corporate level with other experienced corps ... continue on about you Role Player points of view ... encourage this The Secretariate to set example as to who is the best to lead your Tech II Ships and Gear into Tama.
Note who has seen that list and left to join the other side the next day. I don't mind seeing some qaulity targets in my overview but when it's to the point that we have fallen as pitifully deep as the Amarr ... then what. How shiny will it all be then.
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 17:02:00 -
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OMG Zekarus o7
You know, I made a stand. Hopefully I will also get to shoot someone to make a point.
I will consider your words.
It nice to see you.
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: Cyriel Longinus on 04/07/2008 18:05:12
Stitcher,
I agree with you on leadership. That's why I'm interested in seeing the Secretariate removed to make room for something more freeform and creditable. I have faith that things work themselves out.
Much like what you said...
"The idea of having leaders appointed by merit, the respect of their peers, and the judgment of more established leaders, is not a democratic institution - it is a function of common sense. Leaders do not choose themselves - they must prove themselves worthy of the privilege first."
The Secretariate is not exactly a image of strength, a banner for the experienced warmongers to rally under during wartime.
OH and ...
Roccia19 was not trying to credit himself more than saying he knows what is what from the first hand perspective within in this deafcto self appointed leadership.
and ..
I did some Fleet Command in Fountain ... you say they had Fountain T-Shirts!!?
I didn't get a T-Shirt =(
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cyriel Longinus on 04/07/2008 18:44:51
Originally by: Allaria Kriss
You better make sure you don't get your wish to be in charge mate. You might think the Secretariate is useless, but once you get in the position yourself, you'll realize why, and there won't be anything you can do about it. It's easy to sit back and criticize from a distance when you're not actually held accountable for the problem, just like a Gallente who didn't vote criticizing President Foiritan.
Here's a suggestion. How about instead of filling GalNet with stupidity like a bunch of Gallente, you try and work WITH the system, make it work a little more like you believe it should, without trying to incite a civil war. The Militia has enough problems, the same problems that cause the Secretariate (Or indeed any organized body) to be ineffective, without you adding to them just because you want to feel important.
Incidents like this do more than any Gallente could to kill morale and make people unwilling to fight.
Go to the Caldari Commander Channel and try to make effrot to work with the system. Let's see how much energy is wasted there before you decide it would be more exciting and worthwile elsewhere.
If you haven't noticed ... the morale is exactly at the point where it's worth shooting someone to make it obvious.
I have no intentions of allowing anyone to replace The Secretary General or allow the current one to cruise along.
As for critizing from a distance ... Hi, I was made OP for every Caladari Militia channel there was ... a XERC Pilot was dragged or included into every little discussion that laid the path that lead up to the unfortunate coup.
I could do it your way and chat myself to death ... but I prefer to shoot someone and get it done twice as fast.
I do prefer to shoot someone that is confident enough to disregard anyone willing speak against a corrupt status qou.
Allaria Kriss, instead of mouthing off, put yor conviction where you mouth is and say you're loyal to the Secretariate, show how ready you and commited you are to defending it.
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:35:00 -
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Hey Dex Nederland, do the homework silly ... most of all the kills XERC has made were in Gallante space in small gangs or solo.
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Cyriel Longinus on 04/07/2008 20:36:00
It's confirmed the Secetary General has stepped down and The Secretariate [SP-S] influence has been dismantled.
The objective has been achieved without harming a single Caldari.
There is no further reason to execute the plan.
Influence has been restored to the Corporations.
To clarify what was stated "the corporation are running the show" this simply means every corporate entity is free to pursue their destiny seperately or as a Militia.
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.05 04:34:00 -
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Edited by: Cyriel Longinus on 05/07/2008 04:36:57
Originally by: Kaianna Sela
Any corporation worth anything should have been doing this already.....nobody needs more sheep. This will change nothing for anybody with any initiative.
I knew this.
There are several corporations operating idependently or in conjuction with other corporations and pilots that are more than capable of bringing a fight to Gallante Federation space without any form of support from a centralized command structure or in this case "advisory council".
The Caldari State Militia is a Military Entity. The Secretariate [SP-S] was not a body of Military Leaders. Fleet Commanders or Chief Executive Officers who have the command experience, earned repsect from the frontline soldier and the resources to conduct warfare operations on a massive scale.
However because no took the time speak up there was a growing impression and many misunderstandings that The Secreteriate was the best leadership model and group of central leaders for the Caldari State Militia ... the status quo.
Any combat veteran who joins to fight for the Caldari State could sum up the level of strength and support they could possibly be a member of by measuring the leadership.
We had veterans signing up and signing out within days because they made logical assumptions that the Caldari Milita was weak because The Secreteriate was so close to a position of influence over the entire organization without challenge.
The Secreteriate needed to be removed to allow an open enviroment for more tradtional inter-corporate military cooperation.
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.05 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Cyriel Longinus on 05/07/2008 12:25:33
Originally by: Yoshitaka Moromuo
"Ensign" Longinus,
By declaring hostility to fire upon your own fellow militia member while he has not done anything that can be truly considered treasonous, you have stated the intent to instill a military junta in place of the Secretariate, where the strong lead with an iron fist. That act can be considered treasonous in itself, as you are planning to act against fellow citizens of the State. Make no mistake, this is not a statement of support for the Secretariate, nor is it an official position of my corporation. I make this statement of my own accord.
You should be stripped of militia rank and discharged without honor, for there is no honor in fighting against your sworn comrade and brother.
Oh, there have been plans to organize defensive efforts on a level smaller than completely militia-wide. They're just now beginning to take final form and begin operation. Just understand that we've learned from the failings of the Secretariate.
--, 1st Fleet
Yoshitaka Moromuo,
What do you know about honor and service. Did you discover it somewhere sitting in that Badger and ****ing away in empire for most of your career.
I don't ever recall swearing any allegiance or promise to defend specifically you.
You have no confirmed kills in this entire war and here you are ... a "Major" on pedestal eager to brand my service to the State and duty as Chief Executive Officer of a Private Military Corporation ... which by Caldari tradtions has the right to agreesively comepete against other corporations foriegn or domestic ... as treason.
Then you personaly signed your attempt to insult me with your insignificant rank.
I can listen patiently to objective, intelligent contrary criticm but personal insult from a corporation that can hardly back it's own breath deserve to be crushed.
One more unkind word from any member of Lai Dai Infinity Systems hiding behind Militia Ranks will be enough proof of a state of agreesion between our corporations does exist and this will not be about the Caldari State ...
You better dam pray XERCORE is a member corporation of the Caldari State.
This will be very specifically about XERCORE and Lai Dai Infinity Systems who has been set to red. Should we ever leave the service of the State we will see your brand of honor.
Call it gift to your coporation comrades from you to them. I call it my gift to you on the fine art of diplomacy and cooperation.
You should have lead by exmaple.
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.05 12:38:00 -
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Drayco,
Thank you for your words.
It is true that people had stepped up and made a effort to organize ... but to allow that responsibility on the shoulders of just few would have been more fatal than what I had done.
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.05 12:45:00 -
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Anyways, this matter has been concluded.
I have nothing more to say on this.
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